Album: Player Power/coups

Possibly not the right place for this thread, but it does relate to the rumours of players derailing the season due to dissatisfaction with Bluey.<br /> <br /> I was speaking yesterday with a guy who played both Super 12 and provincial rugby for quite a few years, and as a league fan himself he&#039;s made acquaintances with quite a few NRL players from the past. I made a comment about the rumours of player unrest in 2012, and he said &quot;You&#039;d be absolutely amazed at how often players either want to, or do, take control of the team in some way.&quot; He said that there&#039;d been no less than three player coups in top level teams he&#039;d played in, one of them went as far as sitting the coach down and telling him that &quot;for the rest of the season, you&#039;re only the coach on paper&quot;.<br /> <br /> Also mentioned that the same sort of thing happens in the NRL, whether it&#039;s players actively taking over (like Leeds did with Bluey) or players not putting in the effort because they know they&#039;re going to win before they even get on field, and even players pretending injuries are worse than they are to avoid playing.<br /> <br /> He was saying that for the players to get to that sort of mindset, there are serious problems in the team and club; also made the comment that even in a small community like NZ, the general public is blissfully ignorant of team dynamics, and what really goes on. I&#039;d asked him about a provincial legend that he&#039;d played with for most of his career, a guy who was constantly held up as a paragon of NZ rugby virtue and toughness. He just laughed and said the guy got no respect whatsoever from any team-mates, and even junior players never looked up to him. Nearly his entire reputation came from looking like a hard man, and doing lots of fundraising for his club.



Player Power/coups

Updated Oct 1, 2012
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Possibly not the right place for this thread, but it does relate to the rumours of players derailing the season due to dissatisfaction with Bluey.

I was speaking yesterday with a guy who played both Super 12 and provincial rugby for quite a few years, and as a league fan himself he's made acquaintances with quite a few NRL players from the past. I made a comment about the rumours of player unrest in 2012, and he said "You'd be absolutely amazed at how often players either want to, or do, take control of the team in some way." He said that there'd been no less than three player coups in top level teams he'd played in, one of them went as far as sitting the coach down and telling him that "for the rest of the season, you're only the coach on paper".

Also mentioned that the same sort of thing happens in the NRL, whether it's players actively taking over (like Leeds did with Bluey) or players not putting in the effort because they know they're going to win before they even get on field, and even players pretending injuries are worse than they are to avoid playing.

He was saying that for the players to get to that sort of mindset, there are serious problems in the team and club; also made the comment that even in a small community like NZ, the general public is blissfully ignorant of team dynamics, and what really goes on. I'd asked him about a provincial legend that he'd played with for most of his career, a guy who was constantly held up as a paragon of NZ rugby virtue and toughness. He just laughed and said the guy got no respect whatsoever from any team-mates, and even junior players never looked up to him. Nearly his entire reputation came from looking like a hard man, and doing lots of fundraising for his club.
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