General Discussion 2018 Warriors Recruitment Discussion

Discussion in 'General Warriors Discussion' started by mt.wellington, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. Horriors2013
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    About time I say. I'm glad they're fighting back. Sometimes it takes an Aussie to be motivated to make the changes. Kiwis might be too resigned to letting it happen.

    Although it can depend on luck or the quality of the recruiter. Who knows maybe we get the best anyway? Perhaps all that really matters is how good the club is at developing. Hopefully now we realize that the quality of attitude is more important than talent. Or rather they can take all the talented ones and filter them by best attitude. The CEO seems to think that way.
     
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    Totally.

    The other thing I cant stand in Aus is how they think NZ only has a few players so there is no room for a second team. So we end up with something like Perth. Auck doesnt hold the NZRL cup year in year out. IMO we could easily make another club, and what would be even better is we put them in a Kiwi dominated area of Aus like Gold Coast or Bondi lol. In all honesty distance isnt an issue, could even use the old Broncos stadium, if its standing, I havnt been there since 2000. The one thing the warriors lack is the players having both Media and Fan exposure. They leave Mt Smart and clock off. In Aus the fans live where you live, the media has a massive presence in NRL in both news and TV shows. I think the Warriors would be more successful living and breathing the NRL like the other clubs do.
     
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    NRL: Warriors rule out move for under-fire Wallabies fullback Israel Folau
    18 Apr, 2018 2:11pm

    Mike Hosking speaks to rugby ref Nigel Owens about Israel Folau's comments on homosexuals. / Newstalk ZB

    The Warriors have ruled out making a play for Israel Folau if he becomes available on the open market.

    The future of the under-fire Wallabies fullback is uncertain, as the fallout from his controversial social media comments continues on both sides of the Tasman.

    If he does cut ties with the Australian Rugby Union, Folau wouldn't be short of options, including a stint in Japanese or European rugby.

    But a return to the NRL would be another option, as Folau made his name in the 13-a-side code with the Broncos and Storm.

    He was a teenage sensation when he broke onto the scene in 2007, anointed as the Dally M Rookie of the Year, and he scored 73 tries in 91 NRL matches before switching to AFL.

    A return to league might also easier from a domestic point of view, considering his Silver Fern wife Maria's netball commitments in this part of the world.

    The Warriors have previously been linked with Folau, and the club has an ongoing relationship with his agent Issac Moses, with a number of players from his stable.

    Folau's name was discussed at Mt Smart early last year – but it's unlikely he will be this time.

    Firstly, the Warriors don't have the salary cap space.

    The majority of their roster is signed up to the end of next season, and the club has spent big money on acquisitions such as Tohu Harris, Blake Green and Adam Blair, as well as the retention of Shaun Johnson and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.

    Folau would command at least A$1 million a year, which would need to be topped up with third party and endorsement deals.

    Secondly, for all Folau's extraordinary range of talents, there probably isn't an obvious place for him on the roster.

    Tuivasa-Sheck is established at fullback and locked up on a long-term deal, and the club is happy with the present balance provided by Peta Hiku and Solomone Kata in the centres, while David Fusitua adds the aerial option on the wing.

    It's also perhaps a sign of the club's progress that they are no longer linked with every high profile name that comes off contract, as they were in the not too distant past.

    They've also realised – thanks to their ill-fated experiment with Sam Tomkins – that one big name can't change the club.

    There might also be hesitation, on the Warriors' part, to disrupt the culture that has been carefully built since the offseason.

    As was demonstrated with Kieran Foran last year, as well as Jarryd Hayne at the Titans, the presence of a big personality in the dressing room can affect the delicate balance of team chemistry.

    Warriors coach Stephen Kearney was reluctant to discuss Folau this week but made it clear it was extremely unlikely.

    "It's a very long shot I would have thought," said Kearney, when asked if the Warriors were going to discuss Folau.

    "I will let you know if that happens."

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    With Fusitua one of the best wingers in the comp. And only 23. Not worried. Especially with Ken pullling blockbusting runs every game and getting better. Ken is also 23. Israel is 29. So thanks but no thanks.
     
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    Waste of time in my opinion. You don't sign someone on that coin to play wing. And he will be worth some change. He is either a fullback or nothing at this club. End of story...
     
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    Are we a chance for Falou if he makes a return to League with his missus being based in Nz and all? How we do look in terms of cap space next year or after?
     
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    We are probably at the point where we can get a star when Mannering retires.
    I'm saying this because the team is working well .So if we do get a star player
    It won't be to fix anything .It will just be to shine .KF etc would all look better
    In this team .Its got the basics down pact.
     
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    I think Kearney has demonstrated we don't need 'stars' we need hard working players.
    More Blair's and Pulus and Tohus
     
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    Falou would be one hell of a strike weapon at centre. But not at that price tag. Ken is not even a poor mans Falou but he has improved greatly.
     
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    Yeah very true. Rugby is too dominant. For example, I was saying in the forgotten Warriors thread how KBHS beat St. Pauls in my last year. But guess what? We never made the year book. We had Guttenbeil, Buckingham, Rua, Beverley-all who made it to the Warriors/and or other NRL teams (and all had junior contracts already with the Warriors, Manly and Storm respectively). Yet the stars of the First XV came to nothing (Kees Meeuws had just left by then). Yet rugby reigns..
     
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    Yeah Ken deserves a chance. He'll never be a Folau, but Folau's time is over. Unless he takes a big paycut and really wants to play for us, there's no point paying that coin as Mt.Welly said.
     
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    More likely she moves to Oz I reckon after the Comm Games fallout and pressure regarding his gay comments. She's nearing retirement I'd say. But would accept an offer from Oz I'd reckon.
     
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    Few rumours floating about that we are chasing Leeson Ah Mau

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    I remember tweeting this to them after the Dragons game they needed to bring him back looks like they listened.

    Lol on a serious note being a big proponent to bring Leeson back to the club for a while now and feel he fits the need of a bigger prop that the club needs plus the chance to come home and playing starter mins as well. Hopefully they can get the deal done
     
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    another one we are trying to get.....back !!
     
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    No doubting his form this year he’s been one of the standouts in a very good pack but you’ve gotta ask the question at 28 years of age where has this form been all these years?

    Playing for probably his last big contract, I like that we’re looking at him but I’d be cautious about throwing him a big money to get him here.
     
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    Have you been watching him? He's been one of the Dragons better forwards since arriving there. It's just because he's now surrounded by quality that he's able to shine a little more. Hard to be a world beater in a beaten side.
     
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    Yip on the money. Was player of the year for them a couple of seasons ago. Has been in good form for a while now.
     
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    I've followed ah maus career quite closely coz he looked like a colossus in the 20s and he's been a bit of a slow burner- just kept improving every year- I'd be stoked to get him back.
    Jfh is a no brainer if he's keen- love his style.
     
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    I don’t think I’ve noticed him in previous seasons as much as some have, has he always played of the bench or has he regularly started at prop? he’d certainly bring more than Lisone.