General Discussion Auckland Waterfront Stadium

Discussion in 'General Warriors Discussion' started by STEEDEN, Mar 20, 2016.



  1. gREVUS
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    gREVUS Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies

    Actually in the economics arena i think that its not just the rugby/soccer teams that matter. Its location specifies it as an events venue. It's accessibility means concerts, trade shows etc. Now just watch all the locals complain about noise.
     

  2. bruce
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    Am I correct in recalling one of the problems with the Vector site was getting agreement from the Ngatiwhatua?
     
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  3. Lord Gnome of Howick MBE
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    Yes
     
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  4. Lord Gnome of Howick MBE
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    Apparently Goff wants to make the announcement - sees it as his CRL
     
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  5. brightman
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    brightman 1st Grade Fringe

    Well if it's on the Tank Farm or the Ports good on him, but if it's on Maori land and we are leasing it...
     
  6. Miket12
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    I really, really hope that Auckland Council aren't that dumb. But, after dealing with them for over 30 years, I get the feeling they are!!!
     
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  7. bruce
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    If I recall, it was our own Jim Doyle that sold them the idea.
    Regarding the high density housing, I was talking to a dear old lady from Manchester recently. She said they look pretty when they first go up, but then the renters move in and they become something else.
    Last year I went property hunting and took the opportunity to check out some not inexpensive central city apartments. (not the slums off Hobson Street).
    The privately owned ones were very nice. That is when you actually got to them, walking along hallways reeking with the stench of Asian cooking that seemed to have impregnated the carpet.
    Another one I checked out was straight out of the new planning textbook. An apartment building within a stones throw of a railway station, but a little further away from the city. I didn't even venture inside, just one look at the dudes at the front door put me off.
    So yes Mike, high density apartments near a rail and road junction is a great idea according to Jim Doyle.
     
  8. mt.wellington
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    mt.wellington David Shitwell Contributor

    Did he sell it them before the 2011 Rugby World Cup???
     

  9. bruce
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    No, he sold them the idea when they wanted to take MSS. I winced at the time, because although it sounds like a good idea high density accommodation that turns into rental accomodation is fraught with issues.
     
  10. Gizzyfan
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    Gizzyfan 1st Grade Fringe

    Isn't 'high density acommodation' a PC definition of a slum.
     
  11. bruce
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    On Fifth Avenue, New York and in Chelsea maybe not.:) Auckland:confused:
     
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    good, it will give the locals there something else to complain about besides a stadium on their doorstep that they constantly moan about....
     
  13. Lord Gnome of Howick MBE
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    Maybe at Mt Smart but not in Kingsland
     
  14. bruce
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    I have seen some pretty ordinary high density accommodation in Kingsland my lord. They were well designed and built but have become the habitat of renters. Not knocking renters, I have been one myself, but as a general rule when an area goes rental, the tone slips.
     
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    Inruin Walk Them Out

    Why didn't EW buy Mt Smart and then we would have a ready to go site for a new stadium.
     
  16. mt.wellington
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    mt.wellington David Shitwell Contributor

    Dont think he's that rich? How much would the sale price on MSS be???
     
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  17. Miket12
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    Miket12 Warriors 1st Grader

    Just checked on Council's GIS. The whole of the Mt Smart Regional Park has a CV of $52 mil. as of 2014.

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  18. Inruin
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    Inruin Walk Them Out

    yeah, probably should have just bought Carlaw Park instead
     
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    mt.wellington David Shitwell Contributor

    The other issue would be the cost of maintenance and development would be on his shoulders. MSS is due a big upgrade within the decade...
     
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    He didn't need to. The ARL owned it and offered to do a deal with Watson over it.