Team List NRL 2014 - Round 20 vs Manly Team List and Pre Match Discussion

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    NRL ROUND #20 | Laumape and Rapira return

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    Vodafone Warriors head coach Andrew McFadden has made two squad changes for Sunday’s blockbuster 20th-round NRL clash against the competition-leading Manly Sea Eagles at Mount Smart Stadium (4.00pm kick-off; match day sponsor: Suzuki).

    After serving a three-game suspension, Ngani Laumape (21) returns on the right wing for his 24th NRL appearance while 163-game veteran prop Sam Rapira is brought onto an extended bench.

    Laumape comes in for 19-year-old David Fusitua while Rapira, who has missed the last two matches with a back problem, comes onto a five-man interchange for Agnatius Paasi. He joins Feleti Mateo, Ben Matulino, Thomas Leuluai and Jayson Bukuya, who was 18th man for last Saturday’s 22-28 loss to Brisbane.

    The Sea Eagles, beaten grand finalists last year, took outright ownership of the competition lead on 28 points with their 21-12 win over St George Illawarra last night.

    The only regular season meeting between the seventh-placed Vodafone Warriors and Manly offers a smorgasbord of mouth-watering match-ups.

    “It’s exciting for us as a club, for our members and for our fans to have the Sea Eagles here at this time of the season,” said McFadden.

    “They’ve been the form team in the competition and bring so much quality with them. It’s a massive challenge for us and a great opportunity to see where we measure up.

    “There were aspects of our performance which were disappointing last weekend. In the first half much of the detail which has been good for us wasn’t at the level we expect.”

    The head-to-head comparisons in the two starting line-ups are endless.

    At fullback it’s Sam Tomkins against Brett Stewart, on one flank Laumape takes on fellow Tongan powerhouse Jorge Taufua while on the other wing Manu Vatuvei clashes with rookie Kiwi international and former Vodafone Junior Warrior Peta Hiku. In the centres it’s Konrad Hurrell v Steve Matai on one side and defensive specialist Dane Nielsen marking the vastly-experienced Jamie Lyon on the other.

    The halves pit Kiwi Shaun Johnson and Chad Townsend against another Kiwi in Kieran Foran as well as Queensland Origin halfback Daly Cherry-Evans.

    At hooker one Queenslander Nathan Friend squares off with another in Matt Ballin while Vodafone Warriors props Jacob Lillyman and Suaia Matagi are set to collide with Brenton Lawrence and Josh Starling.

    In the back row the Vodafone Warriors have Simon Mannering, Ben Henry and Sebastine Ikahihifo while Manly has Anthony Watmough, Jamie Buhrer and Tom Symonds.

    The Sea Eagles have been one of the Vodafone Warriors’ most difficult opponents with just eight wins in 25 encounters and only two victories in the last 12 games.

    The last time the two sides had a Mount Smart Stadium contest in June last year the Vodafone Warriors won a thriller 18-16, ending a run of six straight losses to Manly stretching back to the 26-24 success at Brookvale Oval when Stacey Jones made his comeback in 2009.

    Sunday’s programme again features a tripleheader with the fifth-placed Vodafone Warriors taking on Manly in the New South Wales Cup at 11.40am followed by the NYC encounter between the two clubs at 1.45pm.



    Vodafone Warriors v MANLY SEA EAGLES

    Mount Smart Stadium, Auckland
    4.00pm, Sunday, July 27

    Vodafone Warriors
    1 Sam Tomkins
    2 Ngani Laumape
    3 Konrad Hurrell
    4 Dane Nielsen
    5 Manu Vatuvei
    6 Chad Townsend
    7 Shaun Johnson
    8 Jacob Lillyman
    9 Nathan Friend
    10 Suaia Matagi
    11 Ben Henry
    12 Simon Mannering (c)
    13 Sebastine Ikahihifo

    Interchange:
    14 Feleti Mateo
    15 Ben Matulino
    16 Jayson Bukuya
    17 Thomas Leuluai
    20 Sam Rapira

    HEAD COACH: Andrew McFadden
     
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    Happy that Fusitua got dropped and Ngani takes his place. David really needs to up his involvement.

    Wonder who will drop off the bench...Bukuya or Mateo? Surely not Jayson again as he was 18th man last week. 3 weeks without football isnt gonna do much for him.
     
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    Sam Rapira back in at 20. That's going to be interesting to see what happens there. Surely he's in if he's fit.

    I wouldn't drop Matagi, Lillyman, Mutts, Bukuya Henry, Ikahihifo, or Mannering on form.

    So for mine it's a contest between our two extra play makers, Leuluai and and the Ninth Immortal...

    And I'm looking forward to seeing boogs come off the bench. He was lethal of the bench last year for the Sharkies... Fingers crossed he can get that form back and carve up the right edge.
     
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    Hmm interesting because Mateo seems to be in McFadden's good books and probably hasn't done enough to actually get dropped. I think we've hit that "too many quality second rowers" point where it's between Henry and Bukuya for a jersey... with Henry being the better player imho.
     
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    and that second row problem is going to be worse next year with Hoffman here, and the likes of Faitala-Mariner ageing another year... not to mention several of us wanting Mutts in the back row.

    You'd pick Henry over Bukuya I think, given his ability to cover centre and hooker.

    Personally, I'd drop Mateo, but I can't see it being done.
     
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    There's zero chance of Mannering being dropped. We need all the props we can get so Matulino, Matagi, Lillyman are safe. Henry and Ikahihifo have been good (except for Henry's recent missed tackles but he was being forced to cover centre at short notice when they occurred).

    Leuluai is clearly part of McFadden's plans going forward so he's safe.

    Therefore: Bukuya. And he won't be dropped because he's not actually in the team right now. He just has to wait for an opportunity to arise. Quietly I do not rate him as highly as our other edge forwards so I'm comfortable with Bukuya missing out.
     
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    Very interesting seeing Raps being included on the extended bench. Tells me he's still not 100 per cent, but if he gets game fit by Sunday, he's an obvious inclusion.

    Who will be the casualty though?

    If that's the case, wouldn't mind Dane dropping off, shifting Benry to centre with Bukuya slotting in second row. Or just seeing Mateo of Leuluai dropping to NSW Cup. None of the above will happen though lol.
     
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    Exactly why a lot of people (myself included) were confused as to why we chased a second rower, awesome as he may be. In my view it points to one thing: McFadden doesn't rate some of our existing back rowers... Bukuya may be at the top of this list.

    And yeah Henry all day errry day.
     
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    Uh oh, Neilsen still in. This thread is going to get interesting.

    Throw in Hoffman next year and we're going to have some quality players stuck in NSW Cup until injuries hit.
     
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    Coaches love experience and I think that's what saved Nielsen after a pretty dis-organised team effort just gone. What do you do when your team play like goons? You keep as much experience as possible, hence Laumape taking Fusitua's spot. Plus Nielsen played well.
     
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    I'm hoping it means Mateo may be released. Also, that perhaps Mannering could move to the front row almost like a Steve Price type prop? then we can run Hoffman, Henry, Ikahihifo in the back row with Mutts off the bench to destroy opposing teams.

    I have liked Bukuya's combination with SJ this year, and like him as a footballer. But I'd prefer him to have a bit more size.
     
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    Agree. I thought it was a fairly predictable change, but it certainly won't be the popular choice.

    Never thought I'd say this about a Manly side, but I think we might have the edge in the back row.
     
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    Bukuya is an adequate player but with the rise of Ikahihifo and Henry's recovery from injury he has kind of dropped in value somewhat. Probably offers a little less than both these players and will find himself as depth more often than not.

    I heard ages ago Mateo was on his way out but it's been silent lately so maybe not going to eventuate.

    I doubt we will see Mannering converted but you never know!
     
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    Similar selection policy to Elliot toward the end of last season where underperforming 'top' players kept their spot at the expense of the young guys,

    Imo they should have stuck with Fusitua and done a straight swap of Neilsen with Laumape. Laumape is a better centre than wing. This reminds me a lot of what happened with Lowrie last year. Taylor and Mateo were playing well and they went and moved them to different positions to accomodate Lowrie, then the wheels fell off the bus
     
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    Except this time, the young guy (Fusitua) under-performed and the 'top' player (Nielsen) performed.

    Laumape has been out of all football for 4 weeks so bringing him back in a less critical position is probably a smart move.
     
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    I think we will see Fusitua dropped for one week and then come back to the wing, Laumape move back to centre and Neilsen dropped. Probably wanted experience of Neilsen this week against Manly.
     
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    Mannering to chuck on 10 kegs in the off and become a colossus in the front row next year?

    Wishful thinking?
     
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    Youre talking one performance, Im talking over a full season. Fusitua has been very good and is getting dropped for one bad performance, Neilsen has been very average and is being retained for 1 good performance,
     
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    We still haven't seen him in his preferred bench-impact role.

    I've still got the memory of Rabbits Warren's call after Boogs made a huge break setting up Carney for a try. "Gee's he's a good player. Off to the Warriors next year."

    Some of that would be nice, but just haven't seen it yet.

    Still we do have plenty of back row cover if he's out.
     
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    Horses for courses and all that, they travel away to the raiders next week, fully expect Fus to go on that trip, but who knows Danger might actually be coming into a little bit of form?? Probably not though.

    Laumape will be fired up, should get some angry kick returns from him.
     
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