General Discussion NRL Salary Cap Thread

Discussion in 'NRL Discussion' started by Lord Gnome of Howick MBE, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Mr Frank White
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    It's also why you can't under pay a player. If the registration didn't matter, you could sign a player for 1k and then tell the NRL too bad, so sad, it's signed and done.

    Plus a host of other reasons
     
  2. gREVUS
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    This last sentence confused me. A player moved on from club A must have a legal contract with that club if club A is subsidising it. Shit that sentence looks as bad as yours.
    Maybe this then. A player has a legal contract, registered with the NRL, until a new contract is written signed and accepted. Therefore the salary cap must include all players signed for that year.
    A subsidised contract could have 4 or more signatures required to make it valid. The new club, the old club, maybe an older club, the NRL and the player.

    All registered contracts would be deemed legal.
     
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    That article blamed the Dogs performance on them being shopped around. That makes sense and might explain why so
    That is the key. If that had been the case in 1999 the Warriors players would have been paid.
     
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    yeah no shit..

    But I don't blame you, it should be transparent and publicly celebrated but Sydney doesn't work like that.

    Let's use Feleti Mateo as an example. In their interest the Warriors agree to move him on and Manly agree to take him on at less than his contract value so Warriors must A)subsidise the difference or B)convince the player to ask for a release.
    Option A requires 2 contracts, 1 going forward from Manly signed by FM and Manly and another between all 3 parties satisfying the the difference required by the Warriors original and soon to be superceded with FM. That will satisfy salary cap rules of the original signing and moving forward.
     
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    If the nrl wont sign off on a contract because said club is over thr cap.
    then how the hell are clubs getting pinged for being over the cap
     
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    I'm not sure if this is how it usually works. This seem to be a new thing because of the new cap.

    Also because of the way the contracts and payments are structured, a club may be fine this season, sign no one, but with back ended deals, end up over the cap for next season, which isn't the Auditors responsibility to resolve as the club could shift players, or restructure payments, or players could retire
     
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    This year the clubs thought the cap was going to be $10 million based on indications from the NRL. The NRL did its sums wrong and had to make it $9.2 million. The smart clubs waited, the dumb clubs went and spent early. The Warriors couldn't buy anybody anyway.;)
     
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    Remember when you had to register for the local club on order to play in the comp, well exactly the same applies in the NRL with the only difference being instead of age or weight restrictions there is a salary cap. So the players contract is disclosed in order to participate, but there are rules to adhere to promote an even competition..
    Hopefully the NRL and the ARLC stick to their word and don't condone cheating and corrupt practices..
     
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    Not the NRLs fault actually. It's the players assc dragging the thing out and trying to renegotiate at the 12th hour.
     
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    snake77 Warriors 1st Grader

    A lot of the rules now are written to protect the players in case clubs fall over. When this gets discussed the Warriors falling over and being picked up on new contracts is usually brought up.
     
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    Cap sorted

    NRL Clubs Agree On Salary Cap For 2018
    Could cause a few problems
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    Triple M and the Australian's Brent Read has reported that a salary cap agreement has been reached for 2018 by the NRL clubs.

    According to Ready, the figure is at $9.4 million, including a discretionary $200,000 development fee for the veterans and development player's allowance.

    The agreement will be put to the players on Monday, with the RLPA yet to sign off on the deal.

    It has been reported that the Bulldogs were pushing for a $9.6 million cap, and CEO Ray Dib would not comment when asked whether the club will be forced to shed players.

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    Thought I read yesterday that the Bulldogs were looking at taking the NRL to court over the cap issue???
     
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    They could, but without an injunction from the court to stop the NRL, the NRL can do what it likes in the interim.
     
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    The $9.4 million sounds like a reasonable compromise between the $9.2 plus what ever alloance the NRL were proposing plus the $9.5 or $9.6 million the clubs were proposing. Now lets hope that is an amount the players will agree to and we can all move on.

    Hopefully that $9.4 million is still enough to get clubs to offload players. Here we are in August and only recruited two players, essentially waited for the amount to be finalised, still have a squad that needs refreshing and the market seems pretty dry as a lot of clubs went in early.
     
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    Finally the NRL has annouced what the salary cap will be for next year

    ....Highlights of the agreement include:

    - A 52 per cent increase in take-home pay for players over the next five years

    - A revised contracting and payment model that provides more certainty, clarity and protection for players

    - The average wage of a top 30 player will rise to $330,000 a year while the minimum wage will be increased to $100,000 next year and $120,000 in 2022

    - The salary cap will rise to $9.4 million next year and more than $10 million in 2022


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    So are there a total of 27 contracted players now or would those additions require releasing players? Also if JTS is signed to a development contract is that excluded from the top 30?
     
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    I believe there are 27 contracted players now, though I might be in error. I just went through the current squad, subtracted the players we lost and added the players we gained.

    Yeah from what I understand each club has 6 positions for development players that aren't included in the top 30.
     
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    Now that the salary cap has been set at 9.4m $AUD for 2018.
    Be interesting how much $ is spent so far and if anymore players are recruited ... As theres still a few top players out there with no contracts yet.. I guess the clubs were waiting to see what the final cap figure is ... before making a move...
     
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    Manly charged with salary cap breaches over past five years
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    • December 11, 2017 6:23pm
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    Manly Sea Eagles players.Source: AAP
    MANLY has been issued a breach notice by the NRL after the governing body found evidence of potential salary cap breaches over the past five years.

    The NRL issued a statement on Monday confirming it had concluded its investigation in the Sea Eagles and preliminary findings showed breaches of the cap.

    Show cause notices have also been issued to two current club officials asking them to explain why they should not have their registrations cancelled.

    All parties now have the chance to respond formally before a final determination on the charges.

    They have five days to respond.

    The NRL confirmed the Sea Eagles could be fined, and may need to adjust their salary cap to be compliant for the 2018 season.

    In 2016 Parramatta was docked 12 competition points and fined $1 million for breaching the salary cap over a number of years.
     
  20. gREVUS
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    gREVUS Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies

    and yet the roosters get away with it