Roger Tuivasa-Sheck

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    tajhay On Titanic.

    I can see him leaving to a consistent top 8 team if we dont make the 8 next year, despite us offering more. He is too good of a player to be playing in a team that just there to make the numbers.

    His next contract would be less about money, and more about being a competitive team.
     
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    It seems an age ago now but this was the guy who reinvented the attacking role of a fullback.
    His running meters were incredible back then. Mind you it helps when you got some quality players
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    His running metres have been pretty amazing this year too, i think he has lost a lot of spark and pace with that Acl, same as Johnson after the break, he has lost a tonne of pace
     
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    The difference been in his Rooster days that his running meters actually translated into wins. Where is with the Warriors it's been fuck all
     
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    He looked slower and less decisive even before he blew up his knee last year.

    Its just the warriors plodders bringing good players down, putting too much on a handful of players because over half the team are dead average and aren’t coached well enough to bring them up.

    I’m sure roger will be pleased to be getting some hard workers like Blair and Harris into the mix.

    If we are halfway decent I think he will stay. If we are full blown shithouse then he had has to be thinking get out before it’s too late.

    Union is the tricky part, he’d be a dynamite winger, but he wouldn’t get the same money, at least initially. If you already have Reiko Ioane, Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Damian Mckenzie, Jordie Barrett, Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo and Julian Savea how much do you want to assign to a league convert? They have to be careful with their cash in the face of overseas clubs, can’t really guarantee him all black time like they did with SBW as he was a bigger name, and they saw him as an important midfield alternate to Smith and Nonu.

    What NRL team would he go to? Tigers to replace Lolohea at the back would be one to watch out for. All the kiwi guys will say good things about Ivan and he’s used to being in Sydney obviously.
     
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    He's not really fast enough to be a union winger. He would have to move in feild or more than likely be a fullback.
    He would be very very lucky to get a shot at the all black fullback spot. He would need to work on defence and kicking.
     
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    With Duffie making the AB's squad that's got to have RTS having a good think about rugby.
     
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    Let the the new contract negotiations begin.

    Rugby League World Cup: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck considering All Blacks switch


    Roger Tuivasa-Sheck's focus could soon turn to a different World Cup as he considers switching to the All Blacks.

    The Warriors and Kiwis superstar is officially off contract and permitted to negotiate with rival NRL clubs from Wednesday. While his immediate focus is New Zealand's Rugby League World Cup campaign, which opens against Samoa on Saturday night, Tuivasa-Sheck is seriously weighing up joining the 15-man game.

    It's an option the premiership-winning fullback has considered previously. There was an offer to switch to a New Zealand super rugby franchise when he was off contract at the Roosters, but he decided to commit to the Warriors on a two-year deal. That contract expires at the end of next year, giving him a full rugby season to make the transition should he decide to press his claims for an All Blacks jersey ahead of the 2019 Rugby World Cup.

    "It's entered discussions, I'm not going to deny that," said Tuivasa-Sheck's manager Bruce Sharrock.

    "We've talked about it and we've certainly talked about it before.

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    "That's his background, the All Blacks are a world-recognised team with an amazing success rate. If you thought you were good enough to be a part of it, it's not a bad ship to be a part of."

    The man dubbed 'RTS' played both codes while attending Otahuhu College in Auckland and was a former member of the New Zealand rugby union schoolboys team. The 24-year-old has already achieved every conceivable honour in rugby league including winning a premiership, representing his country and captaining his club.

    "He's at a stage in his career where if he is going to [switch codes], it's probably going to be sooner rather than later," Sharrock said. "Not many people can shift later in their career, it makes it very tough."

    The Warriors are desperate to retain Tuivasa-Sheck and have made his signature a priority. The club is about to go through an ownership change, although that won't affect the desire to keep him long-term.

    "We've certainly commenced those discussions," said Warriors CEO Cameron George.

    "Roger is tied up with the World Cup but we will continue those. We see Roger as a big part of our future."

    Asked about the lure of the All Blacks jumper, George said: "Roger is a quality player and person, so opportunities will come his way. The club is very proactive in seeking to retain his services."

    After another disappointing season, in which the Warriors finished 13th, Tuivasa-Sheck is hoping to finish the year on a high. The Warriors captain is confident of greater success playing behind a Kiwis forward pack that includes Adam Blair and Marty Taupau when they host Samoa at Mt Smart Stadium.

    "Playing and training behind these guys, I haven't been feeling that much pressure – more excitement with the ball in hand," Tuivasa-Sheck told reporters on Thursday.

    "With Marty, the way he can offload, Adam Blair, all of that.

    "Defensively, these guys will match up well against Samoa, Marty's a pretty big guy and there's a few big dudes in the other team so it'll be good."

    Tuivasa-Sheck said Kiwis coach David Kidwell will give him the freedom to inject himself into the game whenever and wherever he saw fit.

    "He sort of gives us a bit of license to float around players, because that's the sort of Kiwis style he wants – go down short-side if there's a mismatch, take them on if there's a back-rower fatigued," Tuivasa-Sheck said.

    "Plays like that, just shifting to where we find we can really explore the weaknesses of the other team."

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    Roger needs to fix his defence before he even thinks about the All Blacks
     
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    In fairness did we expect anything else? He took a step backwards coming to our club, I always felt that was with one eye on a code switch. At the moment we are a stepping stone club or paying overs club until we start to win/employ respectable coaches/actually develop players
     
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    Would he even be a shoe in for the poorly performing Auckland NPC team..
     
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    He's seen how crap Duffie is and yet still made the All Blacks and wants in...

    Masterful management though - RTS is either getting a huge pay increase to stay or going to Union to chase his actual dream. sigh.
     
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    I think in terms of payment there is no way any NRL club will pay him the same sort of dough the Warriors have paid him. The RTS star has some what diminished, not saying that it’s all his fault. We could probably play Cam Smith out of form if he ever played for us. I think most clubs now would remember him for what he was.
    Maybe Union is only option if he’s looking for the big bucks
     
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    All I can say is that if this is true, he better be stripped of the captaincy, or sharing it with Adam Blair next year atleast. Can't have your captain talking like that before the season has even started, what a joke massive disruption fuck his manager is a pig.
     
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    We get a lot of this with guys coming off contract. An agent mentioning union and the All Blacks guarantees media coverage, the union guys agents do the same thing with the European clubs.

    Yes the article is a worry. It is poor timing with the RLWC about to start and with the Warriors captain being talked about playing another code. There are no worrying quotes from RTS and he has probably mentioned his interest in the past. The journalist is probably pushing it a bit with the 2019 World Cup. He is under contract to the Warriors for 2018 and changing codes and pushing the incumbents in 2019 will be a huge ask.

    The NZ Super Rugby sides would be keen to have him as it is another exciting player to potentially add to their roster.

    He is off contract so he will need to perform which is a good thing from a Warriors point of view. It is also early days a few more articles over the off season and into the new season and we can worry a bit more. Also the Super Rugby sides would need some funding from their private ownership partners to get close to his current salary, if he makes the All Blacks his earning potential would increase massively but is still a risk changing codes and breaking into that side. The Warriors can easily compete against the salary of the Super Rugby sides. Or they could think out side the box and instead of recommitting his $800k or $1-1.2 million to him they could look elsewhere for 2 players to bring in instead.
     
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    Maybe thats why we signed Hiku, warriors new superstar FB
     
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    How has Duffie been crap? I don't know if you've been watching North Harbour this year but him and Tevita Li have been carving teams to shreds. Duffie has been one of the top 3 or 4 players in the Mitre 10 cup this year. Definitely deserves the call up to the ABs. I don't think RTS would be on Duffie's level two seasons into a switch to rugby. Both damaging with the ball but Duffie actually has a kicking game that doesn't exist with RTS.

    This article just looks like a piece of shit manager talking up his client as per. Once RTS speaks on it then it might be more clear. If he's saying the same things as his manager, then I agree that we should drop him as captain.
     
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    People would have rated Duffie much higher if he hadn't had such an injury disrupted time at the Storm. I was gutted when he signed with Auckland NPC instead of the Warriors as he was a true winger/fullback, and so good in the air.

    I believe RTS was quoted when his signing with us was first announced about having a desire to play for the All Blacks one day. Can't fault him for that. Imagine Steve Hanson's face if he missed the one on ones that he misses here. There is a lot more defensive work to do as a union fullback too.
     
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    Geez his manager talking up union on the eve of the rlwc is a good look.