Shaun Johnson

  1. TripleL
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    Let’s not get carried away guys, he’s been solid over his career. A couple below par efforts are a pretty small sample size. Also I don’t think Luke is better than ‘solid’ so not much to gain...
     
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    Preach it.

    Fus hands are like glue. And the height he gets on those leaps. Amazing. Such an athlete.

    Bomb it to his wing all day long Princess. On the odd occasion fool everyone and grubber it to the right for butter hands.
     
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    Stats are facts. His goalkicking is not top NRL standard right now and if it continues it will lose us games. We would be of top of the NRL table right now if he had kicked to a higher standard yesterday.

    Having said that his tactical kicking was of a very high standard. I think he went dead in goal once.

    Something that would not have been noticeable on TV was the position of the sun at MSS. In the first half it was very strong and hidden behind the north edge of the western stand. That created a shadow on just over half of the width of the pitch. His bombs were aimed very high so that the ball started in the shade and then went into the glaring sun. It was smart tactics because it was very difficult for the Titans backs to see the ball. The Titans controlled it well but it showed to me the extent of planning these guys are doing.
     
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    i loved that kick, he was standing on the 20 meter line where his bombs are magnificent. Any further back though....
     
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    Kicked a forty twenty.

    Glad he is trying them again. Mason Linos game seemed to give him a rev up.
     
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    Maybe that Rooster game showed SJ he doesn't have to overplay the game every set. I thought he played a heady game against the Cowboys. Summed up with one word, tough, a word not associated with SJ too much.
     
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    Mason Lino is small fry. Most likely he is getting tips from the 40/20 comp leader Blake Green...
     
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    They might be perfecting that for the finals.
    Surely its a good play on the last .Ken is capable
    Under the high ball .aswell Its only now an again he spills
    It .But iv seen him do a few nice takes of the high
    Ball .Havnt seen him used to much in attack .But
    If they got both of them going SJ could kick to either
    Hard to defend against that .
     
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    He used to have to .We relied on him .
    Mannering as well .He wasn't standing as marker an
    Making all the tackles .Him an SJ have to, an are learning
    That they can rely on their teammates now.
    Now the pressures off they can concentrate fully on
    Their games..
     
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    looks quite simple, SJ is glad the whole team isnt expecting him to do everything, he now has Green to help him out and take alot of the responsobility

    similar to when maloney was here for those "2 good "seasons helping out

    those teams that tend to do well have good 6's and 7's, not just one or the other
     
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    Blake Green gets a lot of credit (deserved we hit the ground running. From round one, the first time ever our spines clicked instantly.).

    Someone who has played with Green, I forget who, described him as a player coach type. He goes around telling his team mates what to do and gives them tips and pointers.
    Recently I haven't liked some of the hype ' Blake Green is the reason the Warriors are winning," ...because it's not the whole answer. Heck every week 16 blokes around him are putting their claim in for MOM...that ain't all him.

    Head to head SJ and Green have been of equal importance to our success, as we all know they compliment each other well.

    Direct comparisons stack up well for SJ in my estimation.

    SJ is the better defender, most of the traffic is going his way, Johnson and Luke have paired up and they have been dropping everyone. Johnson has been nailing some big hits, those two are a strong link in the D chain, just Right of the posts if you're using the tryline formation to take a look at replays.
    Having a half that is a very strong defender is a real luxury. People used to worship Geoff Toovey.

    The only time Johnson gets caught out is to his right where Pita Hiku has been struggling a bit with first contact, though to be fair, apart from getting shredded by the Rabbits and understandable vulnerability when we are down to twelve men....that edge is looking more composed, communicating better, as we know from the Mic recordings of SJ he takes responsibility on himself for a lot of what happens out there.

    So many fixes have been tried, Loolooeye (clunky pairing, TL over calling, no real secondary kicking consistency). Same issues of clunkyness with Chad and Robo, and they still couldn't relieve the Kick pressure like what we are seeing now. Add in the Foran disaster, busted bodily and mentally, and Johnson has had chronic overload for a long long time. Johnson must have had a lot of pressure privately, he was the common denominator in those failed halves pairings, people were pointing the finger, privately he must have collective baggage.

    So what's different now ? It's pretty obvious that if you get a coach who really knows Shaun, and that boss is around for more than five minutes, that you should never force the guy to Major in the core organisational roles of running the whole machine, he shouldn't have to, there is nothing wrong with the blokes strengths and contribution, the sooner people stopped trying to use half arsed patch ups and get in a specialist, someone with a lot of experience, someone still young enough to deliver the goods, someone else to stress over the talking part, someone that has won lots and most importantly, wants to take on the Warriors challenge armed with a belief they can help find the solution.

    Johnson still has a hugely stressful roll, people still expect that when nothing's on...you chuck it to Johnson and he will carry the responsibility of digging everyone out of the shit.

    The thing I most admire about SJ is that he used to be greedy or overplay it, and a poor defender ( young star syndrome) but he left all that behind in the Juniors. He used to get affected by the hype, media attention seemed to affect his game.

    That game in Perth....the return of Shaun Johnson, the most talented individual in the NRL, was like the planets aligning, after two years of playing busted, his speeds back, he hits a Rabbit forward hard, he dazzles the Bunnies, and he runs straight at the D line sending a clear message, I'm in back biachs and say hello to my new friends Tohu Harris and Blake Green.

    Blake RTS Tohu Pita Kata the Wingers, have all hit the ground running with the attack.

    Johnson is our not so secret weapon, the guy that's gonna win for us, and just as the forwards aren't doing all the hard work, Johnsons not carrying the backline on his shoulders, and man does it show - hes bought in to the new Warriors concept as much as the new guys.

    Blake's calm suits Johnsons temperamental genius....they're a match made in heaven.
     
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    I think the fact that we haven't ensured that someone like this has always been at Johnsons side is a huge failure on the part of the Warriors and NZRL too. We have failed Shaun in that regard. He could be way ahead of where he is. No doubt in my mind that with the right people around him he could be one of the games greats....the clock is ticking though.

    At least we are on track now.
     
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    It has been so hard for the Warriors to attract anyone halfway decent, Maloney was a bloody big fluke, even his own system hadnt picked up how good he was.
    Bad Mojo that Maloney took the chance to win one over the bigger money at the Warriors.

    Stephen Kearney has done an amazing Job. I know SK rates Harris Tavita very highly, he spoke about him in glowing terms recently, he looks a few years away and the eventual heir apparent.
     
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    Bellamy knew how good he was but equally knew how terrible he was as a defender. If you can't tackle you can't play for the Storm...
     
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    He is so lucky that his goal kicking didn't cost us the game
     
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    That is a good point. The Dragons are making penalty kicks fashionable again. But without Linos 83% it makes things hard, like Cleary was to Jones. Its so often forgotten how many points penalties and field goals make up. The Drgaons do take the 2 points when on offer vs "keeping the pressure on" which I think is a falacy. So 1/3 times we score a try. Why not just make it 100% by kicking penalties. I think we are kicking more penalties this year too. I also think Johnson might be improving with his kicking. If we limit penalty goals to ones within 10m of the post like Widdup is, I think Johnson can slot 90% of those.
     
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