Decided to start this discussion because of a comment in the Des Hasler thread about Kearney only making excuses. Not having a dig at the poster concerned because I think he's at least partly right, but I do sometimes think that when a coach/player states a fact about his team (ie losing 200 games of experience from the previous season), people who already didn't particularly like the coach/player label the fact an excuse - ie "Yeah, he could have risen above that anyway/that's just a smokescreen because he's crap" whereas people who do like the player/coach would go "Fair enough, not right to say that's the only thing that stuffed us but that's a lot of experience that walked out the door." So, fellow forummers, the question is: What makes a fact a reason rather than an excuse? To me, a player injury is a reason because there's no way the coach is going to know that, say, your fullback's going to stuff his ACL in Round 2 and be out for the season and he's a pretty major player and obviously whoever fills in at fullback isn't going to be as good - if he was, he'd have been playing from the start. It would be an excuse, however, to claim that as the only reason when everyone can see that the forwards weren't putting in and the coach sat on his hands and did nowt.