General Discussion Warriors Set to be Sold?

Discussion in 'General Warriors Discussion' started by Canadian_WarriorFan, Aug 13, 2017.

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  1. Thread Highlight: GeoMan Post 4
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    I had always thought Maori were Polynesian. And I always thought the word "Warriors" and Polynesian (and Melanesian ) was synonymous. It is obvious to me 'Warriors" cites the great Polynesian tradition. Am I wrong? The majority of the Warriors is Polynesian. And so too the impact players on the Blues - not to mention the Blues coach or even the All Blacks itself, or the essential linesmen in the NFL (the majority of the Fale group, most Tongan).. The 'Haka", what culture is that based upon? The Fale group is Polynesian. Come to your own conclusions unless you think a Polynesian ownership group would be a detriment to NRL play and impede the ability of the ownership to communicate to the players? Methinks it would inspire the Warriors. With Fale, the Warriors become the first Polynesian sports group in majority from top to bottom in the world, though so many teams now around the world are dependent upon the Polynesian athlete. Would the NRL welcome that? Would South Auckland? Would the players? Who wouldnt welcome that as it is a major change in the scheme of things or habit over the years.
     
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    I wouldn’t welcome it. I have zero interest in who owns and runs this team other than their ability to run it.
    Any organisation that puts any other agendas such as ethnicity before the stability and on field performance of this team to me isn’t fit to own or run it.

    Also thought it was kind of underhanded to not address the fact that you were involved in one of the biding parties in your first post.
     
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    I wouldn't say the word "Warriors" in a sporting context is synonymous with polynesian culture at all.
    Golden State Warriors began in 1954 as the Philadelphia Warriors. The University of Hawaii only became the Rainbow Warriors in 1974.

    Methinks you're naive and do not understand the NRL comp if you think the race of a club ownership will make any difference to motivating a team over the course of 26 rounds.

    I spoke with two players at the game on Saturday, they mentioned the squad were not really discussing the ownership issues internally BUT did not take a liking to Fale's antics in the media.
     
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    Good grief ... I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the sheer level of ignorance on display here from this joker o_O :rolleyes:

    Not even going to bother debating that claptrap ... I got better things to do ... like go take a great big steaming dump :stop: :meh:

    Where's Brucey when you need him ??? ... that kinda tripe's right in his wheel house ... oh that's right ... :spitoutdummy: :bawling: ... nevermind
     
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    If you are related to the Fale bid I’d probably stay in the background...
    Yes NZs make up and culture does have strong roots in Polynesian culture- BUT it’s not the only culture that makes NZ special.
    NZ is a melting pot of cultures and to bring preference to one race/culture is to alienate others as much as “empower” another. To be honest I’d lose respect to any players who altered their performance based on any outside factors let alone who owns the club(I doubt this has any substance btw)
    I don’t care what race owns the club as long as it’s run successfully, to make race a factor is a mistake imo and to pull the “its because we’re Polynesian” card is to fall into the excuses culture that has plagued this club for too long
     
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    Irrespective of his delivery at times on this thread, I'm confident that bruce has absolutely nailed it with his concerns about the Fale group.
     
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    Totally agree bro ... I too believe Brucey absolutely nailed it early on

    Unfortunately he hammered that nail right through the floor boards into the dirt & kept trying to hammer his way down to the molten core

    Kinda lost me in the wash after that
     
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    I seem to have touched a nerve. Dont get me wrong, have many relatives came to Waupu, NZ from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia - obviously not Polynesian. And I find the heritage for Polynesians and being "warriors" or "Warriors", an obvious one,; so obvious Polynesian is what is sought to evoke with the name. What exactly fuels your anger over the Fale bid? Or do you you, like most South Auckland, find it of great stuff? Do you intensely dislike the red polo shirt Fale wears as a matter of course? Did you attend the Tongan England RWC game in Mt Smart? Fale's Grandmother is buried in Auckland. Many of his family live in South Auckland. Most Polynesians do not see their nation being in just Tonga or Samoa, but rather where the family loves from Salt Lake City to Seattle to HI to Tokyo to Australia to Tonga to Samoa to Fiji then New Zealand. Something far greater than just NZ. The majority of the Warriors players see nationhood in this fashion. Would such a complimentary ownership be good for the team as it now stands, with many of the ownership peer elite athletes, only from another contact football code but similar heritage?
     
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    I think you are missing many points. Try not talking about what might or might not be good for Polynesians and instead talk about how you plan to run the club, what is going to make it a success on and off the field, because quite frankly the fact the potential owners of the club are polynesian is all nice and good but it doesn't mean anything if that is all you've got. Tainui Iwi had a similar desire when they bought the club.

    Tell me how much any of what you have said has any impact on Blake Green, or one of our greatest Warriors in Simon Mannering? I'm sure a number of others would be embarrassed rather than inspired.
     
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    Just a few questions if you don't mind
    1 - where is Waupu .
    2- where is the evidence to support " Or do you you, like most South Auckland, find it of great stuff? "
    3- how is it relevant where Richard's grandmother is buried
    4- What is your role/ position within Pacific Sports International ?
    5 - Who are you speaking for here ? - "The majority of the Warriors players see nationhood in this fashion"
     
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    ONE of the questions I had when I read about the Fale and his Hawaiian (albeit predominately Tongan) consortium bid was 'why the Warriors?'. After reading a few posts I was thinking, due to the huge (& great) support for Tonga in the RLWC they saw an opportunity to 'cash in' on that support & very little else about the Warriors seemed to matter. I thought a lot more besides but on this tack I thought there was a great opportunity to do what PNG & hopefully Fiji are doing - support a team into the ISP and grow an NRL team from there for Tonga...but no, they seemed to want a readymade business that could then be used to elevate Tonga via the NRL.
    Don't get me wrong here, I have great respect for Tongan culture and (in this arena) Tongan contribution to the Warriors and the NRL in general...my beef is in usurping a 20plus year venture to fulfill your agenda. Much easier to take over a readymade club right?

    As some have said, the most successful NZ teams in our history and today have been a mixture of ethnicities, not because of any one in particular.

    Would love to see our PI whanau build NRL teams from their homebases & in NZ...put your 24 mill into doing that...
     
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    Ok bro you have turned me, I want to change my vote to Graham Lowe coz this shit just got on the Crazy train.
     
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    As a proud Tongan can you please STFU. It's embarrassing and insulting thanks...
     
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    Watson won't be left with any bill.

    The way I see it, it's this spartan investments which will be owing money to Glenn.

    It's a poor businessperson and law firm that leaves personal assets up for grabs in a commercial dispute.
     
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    Media has been hidden. Please Register to view. That looks pretty Polynesian to me.
     
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    A blue box with a red x looks Polynesian?
     
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    Image is broken mate. Perhaps try to get some silicon valley IT experts to teach the "specialists" on how to link to an image.

    BTW i doubt this person, would be an expert in anything polynesian...dont you agree?

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    I favoured the Fale consortium over ARL but now with this other guy, George "Mac" Robertson, who is part of the consortium spewing that utter nonsense about Polynesians I would rather the club fold than either group getting it. The ARL are going to run into the ground and fuck up both the club and Auckland Rugby League while Fale and his squad are going to make this club a fucking laughing stock with this Poly obsession. That sort of ideal is going to alienate so many fans. It beggars belief that they would be stupid enough to publicly say such things...
     
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    I have to agree. I am against the ARL taking over the Warriors for a number of reasons i have already mentioned. The Fale bid I was hoping for some vision about expanding membership and merchandise into Hawaii and North America/Canada, potentially a Warriors team based in Hawaii entered into an American league and an enhanced focus on fan engagement which would lead to a sustainable successful brand, by a group who happened to be Polynesian which would have been a great thing for Polynesians. Unfortunately I feel that the only vision is a misguided 'we will be seen as successful Polynesians if we buy the club, can someone pass the Kava?'

    Being able to afford to buy the club is one thing. Being able to run a successful, inclusive club is another thing completely.
     
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