General Discussion What Is Wrong With The Warriors?

Discussion in 'General Warriors Discussion' started by bruce, Aug 9, 2017.



  1. Owner Eric Watson

  2. CEO Jim Doyle

  3. Coach Stephen Kearney

  4. Players

  5. Recruitment

  6. Development

  7. Too many NZ developed players

  8. Too many South Aucklanders

  9. Too many Polynesians

  10. Not enough white players

  11. Not enough Aussies

  12. Club culture

  13. Mt Smart Stadium/Auckland

  14. Lack of leadership

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  1. mt.wellington
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    mt.wellington ABOVE THE LINE

    And the second half against the Raiders. Warriors are the worst second half team in the comp lol. All Blacks are the exact opposite. Silly to poke holes in the All Blacks over one half of footy. And lets not forget, they still won the game...
     
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  2. Pozza
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    Pozza 1st Grade Fringe

    Winning games that's an interesting concept. We might try it one day
     
  3. bruce
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    bruce Warriors 1st Grader Contributor

    The All Black defence was shite in that second half, but they did throw the ball around. If the had played like Kearney wanted they would have closed the game down at half time.
     
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    Yeah, cool dude, did I say that ? Did I say any of that ? Go read what I wrote again and then you can comment.

    The sex thing isn't my issue. I don't care who has had sex with or who's involved and who fuck is watching. I wouldn't care that he once had entire team around to his place, smoking cigarette, watching him have sex with her while they all took turns blowing smoke on his balls. Like you said as long as it's consensual that's none of our concern and isn't. Where it is our concern is that he did all this on the company's dime, during work hours. You just don't do that especially not if you're supposed to be a professional athlete playing for professional football team. That like it or not, there is certain standard you must adhere to and take responsibility for not only as player but also out of respect for your teammates. He didn't do that and that's what pisses me off is reasons behind why he didn't do that speaks volumes about current culture of this club, where as I've stated before, it seems there are just too many players there who think that they can just do what they like, when they like and can get away with it. That too many players treat this team as joke and are all laughing at us fans as result. That's thing that really should fuck you off about this whole sex drama. Not what he's done ( -because honestly, he himself hasn't done anything) but how much history behind it speaks about wider issues and wider problems that this team still faces going forward. This is sixth year we have failed to reached finals. Since then we also have had four head coaches, three CEOS and soon two owners. That is all because of the culture of this club. Something needs to change and I don't see much happening that will when we still won't do anything to address entrenched attitudes that are still so obviously there inside this club . That's what fucks me off most as a fan ... :bag:
     
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  5. Naumaifooty
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    Naumaifooty U20's Player

    Kevin Locke
    Glenn Fisiahi
    Omar Slaihmankel
    Brad Abbey
    Viliame Lolohea
    Bill Tupou
    Peta Hiku
    Dylan Collier
    Adam Henry
    Ngani Laumape
    Konrad Hurrell
    Siautonga Likiliki
    Sosaia Feki
    Carlos Tuimavave
    Isaac John
    Jordan Meads
    Tui Lolohea
    Russell Packer
    Nathaniel Peteru
    Agnatius Paasi
    Toka Likiliki
    Sam Lousi
    Leeson Ah Mau
    Alehana Mara
    Nafe Seluini
    Kurt Robinson
    Erin Clark
    Siliva Havili
    Raymond Faitala Mariner
    John Palavi
    Ben Henry
    Sione Lousi
    Sio Siua Taukeiaho
    Elijah Taylor
    Abraham Papaalii
    Sebastine Ikahihifo
    Matthew Robinson

    Its shocking to see how much talent the club has either wasted let go or not developed.
     
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  6. jonno
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    jonno Warriors 1st Grader

    For year's now people have been asking what is wrong with the warriors?

    We'll here it is people. Plain as day.

    It's the heat.;)
     
  7. Johnnyray
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    Anybody seen this yet ? :(

    League: Australian players 'smarter' than Kiwis, says former Warriors star

    Former Warriors and Kiwi league star Elijah Taylor says Australian players are "smarter" than their New Zealand counterparts and insists the struggling Mt Smart club are paying the price for it after another dismal season.

    According to the website rlwc2017.com, Taylor questioned the development systems in place at his former club, starting at the grassroots after the Warriors finished their campaign in a disappointing 13th place - with only seven wins.

    "Back in New Zealand the game is about power and running over someone, instead of skill, tactics and kicking game," Taylor, who spent three seasons with the Warriors before joining the Penrith Panthers and later switching to the Wests Tigers, said.

    "Kicking games are non-existent until you come to the under-20s.

    "It's all about physical football - not completions or wrestle.

    "Australia have a lot of halves and people that are smart footballers. The pathways [in New Zealand] aren't as good and the quality of play."


    Taylor argued players like Jesse Bromwich, Kevin Proctor and even Warriors captain Roger Tuivasa-Sheck wouldn't be the players they are today without the help of Australian-based clubs, the website reported.

    "If a Peta Hiku stayed at the Warriors [instead of joining the Sea Eagles in 2013] they had Manu Vatuvei there, so he wouldn't have the opportunity," Taylor said.

    "The Warriors wanted to sign Roger Tuivasa-Sheck before he signed with the Roosters.

    "He would've been behind Vatuvei and might not have got the opportunity.


    "For him to go to the Roosters and win a premiership, then go back as a Warriors captain - it's a win-win for New Zealand rugby league.

    "There are 16 NRL clubs and a lot of talent in New Zealand. They get an opportunity elsewhere and it's good for rugby league."

    The Warriors held initial talks with Taylor about returning to the club he debuted for back in 2011, but discussions stalled and he re-signed with the Tigers on a three-year deal last month.

    The former Kaitaia College pupil insists travel remains a key obstacle his former side is yet to overcome under coach Stephen Kearney - with the Warriors managing just one away win in 2017.

    "Three hours one way in two days is [standard] travel for the Warriors, you're cramming it into one day when you've got back-to-back away trips," Taylor said.


    "That's the only thing I can come up with [as a reason for the Warriors' struggles] because I know they train hard. They've got the roster, facilities, financial backing and the sponsors.

    "Steve Kearney is a great coach and they've got the roster. I know they had a Melbourne-style pre-season."

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  8. mt.wellington
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    mt.wellington ABOVE THE LINE

    Article are making the wrong link. Taylor isnt bagging the Warriors. He's bagging the NZRL...
     
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  9. Gizzyfan
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    Accountability and responsibility are missing IMO. This leads from Management and it isn't happening. With the Coaching merry go round the results are all unacceptable. Kearney has tried to get them to execute the basics without much success.

    Personally to get them out of their comfort zone, I would take them to Waiouru for at least a week pre season and stay on base. No 1's to be worn at dinner time, no exceptions. This is a pre curser to expectations during the season for assembly, travel and after match.

    STRICT protocols on punctuality, if a training is scheduled for 2.00pm, that means players are changed and ready to start training at 2.00pm.

    These are small things but are so important to building a team. Mainly it instils discipline. You talk to soldiers who have experience combat, they then appreciate the importance of drill for combat readiness.

    Red bull and medicines and nooky in breach of team protocols is a worry. Mainly because it seems to group efforts by senior players. One off indiscretions can happen but coordinated breaches are a concern. Management has to step up and take control of the Asylum.

    Handy hint, Managers need to manage, they set the rules. On the other hand Players are called that because they are.............Players. Simple really.

    If done right bringing in that accountability and responsibility will bring focus to the squad. How many times over the last years have they failed to close out games. That is focus.

    Sorry for the rant.
     
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  10. ko wai ra
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    ko wai ra NSW Cup Player

    Dam by all accounts,we are a poor mans version of BALLERS!!!
    -mooted new stadium
    -players on the gear
    -coaches being sackd
    -dwn low hoes having babies
    -bodene probs has concussion issues

    But instead of big pec's we got BIG nasal cavities haaaaa
    Expect to an extortion episode coming out soon
     
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    PNG Kiwi Warriors Bench Player

    Absolutely nailed it, we have all expressed our frustrations on what is wrong with the Warriors, and changing the rules of engagement to get results is required.
    So we have started to recruit to get a bit of starch into the team and getting rid of the pill poppers. Hopefully Bodene isn't resigned not because he hasn't got talent but because he rightfully or wrongfully is now bad PR for the brand.
     
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