General Discussion Your fastest Warriors Xlll

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  1. Sup42
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    Bit of a fun thread inspired by Radio sport Fastest All Black side.

    My line up is purely Subjective obviously, and there are some players who have only played a handful of games in their positions.

    Emphasis is out and out speed as opposed to whether those players were specialists.
    As long as they played the position once, fast enough is good enough.

    To ensure the fastest team on the park, numbering in positions like Wing and backrow matter not. For example, as long as your player was a Wing in at least one game for the Warriors, ignore the numbering, I want the fastest team possible.

    2. Lee Oudenryn
    Fastest Warrior ever. Beat Martin Offiah in a charity sprint race. Chariots Offiah was the fastest man to have played the game. Rumor has it Offiahs team mates bet against him and Chariots threw the race.

    I watched it and there is no doubt Offiah pissed around jogging at the start, last fifty meters Offiah turned on the after burners and almost caught Lee.

    1. Glen Fisi'iahi.
    A close call.
    Legendary speed, however for fullbacks the Warriors have no lack of candidates.

    Wade Mckinnon would be on many peoples lists, personally I think McKinnon was better at maintaining speed while making direction changes. In a straight out speed test I would put my money on 36km per hour Flying Fish.

    Hon mentions to our first fb Phil Blake, then Brent Webb, Lance Hohia, Tuimoala Lolohea and Kevin Locke.

    5. Nigel Vagana.

    Few will dispute his natural speed. Many will question whether he should be picked in the center options since he spent more time there. Built like a greyhound, I'm guessing he would win in a race against a very long list of Wingers slower than Oudenryn.
    Manu
    Meli
    Demon Kemp
    Locke
    Mark Ellis
    Seam Hope
    Whetu Taewa

    4. Manu Vatuvei
    Will have people scratching their heads as a center nomination, however Manu played a game at center. You can argue their are faster Wingers (I've gone Vagana for example) but thanks to that singular appearance at center, and with Vagana occupying his wing berth, I don't think the Warriors have ever played a faster center in their History.

    3. Clinton Toopi.
    Natural speed off the mark born of quick twitch fibers and lightening reflexes, not unlike McKinnon Toopi holds his speed while making direction changes, add that to his speed off the mark and he leaves other world class candidates like Brett Tate in the dust in an out and out speed quest.

    6. Shaun Johnson. Nominated by default outside his seven Jersey by virtue of wearing this number in 2016.


    7. Stacey Jones.

    No surprises. At his peak, from a standing start, he was as quick as Johnson on an average Johnson day IMO.

    There the comparison ends. Johnson by comparison has off the mark speed that is sustained over a longer period in terms of their careers, and over a longer distance than Jones.

    9. Lance Hohaia.
    Not a lot need be said here. Apart from...for pure speed at Hooker the Huntly Hobbit, could burn tiring defences with his speed better than anyone. hon mentions to other speed Hookers:
    Syd Eru for testing +ve for speed on Tour with Kiwis by virtue of taking pseudo ephidrine cold and flu tabs on tour with the Kiwis. He was probably the fastest true hooker we have had in our colors along with PJ Marsh.

    12. Sione Faumuina.

    Fastest Non Hooker Forward in Warrior history. Who can forget him burning the Bulldogs back line in the Meli 5 try performance....record breaking NRL finals game. Faumuina could move out.

    11. Tony Tatupu.

    Not unlike Faumuina, Tony was in the mould of a center/backrow Forward and had genuine pace...the kind that a nostalgic Dean Bell mistakenly assumed ex centerst Simon Mannering, Lewis Brown, and Dominique Peroux must retain after becoming forwards.... Funny thing is, in Tutupu's day, people expected NZ forwards to be Mobile and he was one of the best examples of where that thinking stems from.

    13. Konrad Hurrell. Played a game in the back row off the bench V the Cowboys. Somewhat of a cheat nomination, but is possibly as quick as Faumuina and in the same speed classas Tatupu.

    8. Joe Vagana.

    Ex center who at his peak as a baby Prop was faster than any other Warrior forward outside of Hooker I can think of. Played in the Warriors only ever game at Carlaw park in 1995 as an unknown off the Bench. Made a break on the Warriors twenty and was chased by Maninga who juat managed to stop him in the try line.

    Fastest Prop in Warrior history then daylight.

    10. Steve Price.

    Possibly slower than Mr Effective over the first twenty, and Ali who played prop too, but Price is one of the few Warrior props with the engine to sustain a pace to score a length of the field try.


    Excuse the random listing of players.

    It is deliberate.

    I have tried to go from fastest overall to next fastest, as opposed to chronological numbering ala one to thirteen.

    Coach:
    Andrew McFadden.

    Hon mention Tony Kemp.

    The rest don't have NRL track records as running backs, Cappy was pretty quick back in the day..

    Bench
    14. Phil Blake
    15. Villasante
    16. Sam Rapira
    17. Paleaaesina

    18th Man Denom Kemp.
    What a disappointment.

    Fastest Bronco before Joining the Warriors from a pretty quick brissy back line.
     
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    I'd rate Justin Murphy the second quickest winger we've had.
    He scored some smokin' runaway tries while he was with us.
     
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    1. Fisi'iahi
    2. Locke
    3. Tate
    4. Toopi
    5. Odenryan
    6. Maloney
    7. Johnson
    8. Wiki
    9. Roache
    10. Matagi
    11. Luaki
    12. Bakuya
    13. Mannering
     
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    Knew there were some old names put there I would over look. Yep he was lightening.
     
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    Bro you mean Marc Ellis right?
    Couldn't imagine Carter scorching down the sideline. ;)
     
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    Haha yeah sorry bout that I will correct the OP.
     
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    Michael Crockett, Denan Kemp, Justin Murphy, Pethybridge all would have been faster than Manu/Vagana IMO. Maybe even Cooper Vuna too? Yes, they weren't that great individually, but if it's based on speed then they would be in the discussion for sure.

    1. Fish
    2. Oudenryn
    3. Vagana
    4. Toopi
    5. Kemp
    6. Johnson
    7. Lolohea
    8. Paleaaesina
    9. Hohaia
    10. Wiki
    11. Fai
    12. Koopu
    13. Mannering

    14. Webb
    15. Faumuina
    16. Matagi
    17. Ali
     
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    mt.wellington ABOVE THE LINE

    1. Glen Fisiiahi - Quite possibly the fastest player to ever don the Warriors jersey.
    2. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck - Not only a speed merchant but has the ability to step without losing pace
    3. Clinton Toopi - Acceleration was phenomenal and once he hit his top speed he was hard to catch
    4. Nigel Vagana - All the goods bit of Toopi and RTS combined.
    5. Lee Oudenryn - Surprised Martin Offiah in a league sprint. His speed was legendary. Right up there with Fish.
    6. Cliff Beverley - Small, scrawny little 5/8 who could put on the after burners
    7. Shaun Johnson - No explanation needed
    8. Russell Packer - Dont be fooled by this porker. The guy could keep pace with most outside backs and was known to chase a few down.
    9. Shaun Berrigan - Was one of the fastest backs in the game at one stage
    10. Joe Galuvao - Centre/Fullback convert
    11. Louis Anderson - Centre utility who was known to chase down wingers
    12. Sione Faumuina - One of the fastest forwards to ever play for us
    13. Simon Mannering - Has a surprising amount of speed when needed though his top speed isnt too flash

    14. Hitro Okesene - His acceleration was amazing and was what enabled him to make those barn storming runs that made him a cult hero
    15. Ruben Wiki - Another centre convert he lost a bit of pace once he bulked up but didnt lose it completely
    16. Agnatius Paasi - Got great acceleration for such a stocky guy
    17. Kevin Locke - Known speedster. Had to add him somewhere...
     
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    Cant believe Jono Wright hasn't been mentioned. The blur as he dashes down the sideline leaving the touch judge in his wake.....
     
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    That blur would be because time stands still when he gets the ball.
     
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    That blur is the salty tears welling in my eyes as I realise it is actually Wright on the field.
     
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    I was working doors in the Cross and Martin was at our club the night before the race. We closed at 5am and he wasn't going home when he left there. He was so shitfaced at the club that he couldn't have been too good by race time which was mid afternoon I think. He probably thought he was in 4 man race!

    I knew him through a mutual friend and he was not a overly competitive type, similar to a lot of naturally gifted players at that time I suppose. He shrugged off the loss like it was nothing.
     
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    mt.wellington ABOVE THE LINE

    On that note. Slowest Warriors XVII.

    1. David Mulhall - We've been blessed with some of the fastest fullbacks in the game but this guy was so slow he could barely make 10 metres from the kick return.
    2. Jonathan Wright - Would get foot dragged by half the forward pack while he's driving his car.
    3. Tony Martin - Too stocky to have any real top speed.
    4. Siuatonga Likiliki - Too fat to have any real top speed
    5. Ken Maumalo - Havent really seen him wind up but he seems slow for a wing but fast for a 2nd rower
    6. Chad Townsend - Never forget Feleti Mateo having to slow done to keep up with him after he made that break against the Dragons at Eden Park
    7. Isaac John - Gifted player whose only downfall was a snails pace.
    8. Mark Tookey - Took him forever to wind up but his bulk ensured he bent the line regardless
    9. Duane Mann - Old school shaped hooker who only had to be able to pass left and right and tackle like a dog in the middle
    10. Gavin Hill - Big lump of a man who was out of his depth in the new era or agile forwards
    11. Logan Edwards - See above
    12. Sam Lousi - Once he was tackled you could have a cigarette, get another beer, restock the chips, come back to the telly and he would still be getting up to play the ball. Even when he ran it was like time had slowed to Matrix level shit
    13. Micheal Luck - Had no acceleration or top end speed at all. Still my second favourite player ever

    14. Epalahame Lauaki - Could pull it off in short bursts but spent most the game trying to get back onside
    15. Frank Watene - They didnt call him Frank the Tank for nothing. Built like one and moved like one too.
    16. Todd Lowrie - Couldnt bend the line and got pushed back more often then not because his lack of speed.
    17. Shane Endacott - One of the slowest backs I have ever seen. Should have spent way more time in the pack or Reserve Grade...
     
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    Great list, but bro, surely Skinny Byrne was slower than Ken.
     
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    Bodene Thompson has a bit of toe in the last few games. Good step and bit of speed.
     
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    Great team speedwise. Couple of other thoughts though: I'd be interested to see how RTS, Kemp and Murphy would trade off in a pure foot race though. All three are/were very quick. Tate could be a smokey for centre as well. Had great speed, I just don't know how much of it he still had left in warriors colours. Young Toopi and Vagana might have edged him there. Vinnie Anderson and Koopu might have got a look in in the back row as well, or if not, Koopu probably should be on the bench.

    But great team (if speed was the only thing to judge by)!
     
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    Where would Grant Young fit in there? I reckon he'd have Lauaki covered at least. Much like Lauaki had feet for hands too.

    Lowrie and Luck in the same team. So much win.
     
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    Another slight amendment to your side... Would probably have to put Tui Lolohea in at 6 over Beverley. Pretty sure Tui would have the edge on Beverley for speed.
     
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    Nice thread Sup

    Goin a step further what about some "pure pace " highlights?

    SJ's had a few over the years (especially his first season) - long range foot races against the Cowboys (burning off Matty Bowen) and Panthers come to mind. Then of course running down Michael Jennings with ease was a "wow" moment.

    Fisiahi (quickest Warrior of all time for mine) had a lot of moments in the u/20s. First grade? I seem to remember a game against the Sharks in Taupo where he scored off a scrum that just made everyone else look like they we're standing.

    Mannering running down Gasnier
    Pricey running down Sam Perrett lol

    Must be a shit load more
     
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